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CCID-tvol: Reverted edits by Ahlabayt (talk) to last revision by Lucychili

2014-04-08T23:14:13Z

Reverted edits by Ahlabayt (talk) to last revision by Lucychili

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	This page is designed to collect comments and feedback on the BETA Returning Author's Rights: Termination of Transfer tool that is available for testing on ccLabs http://labs.creativecommons.org/termination/.		This page is designed to collect comments and feedback on the BETA Returning Author's Rights: Termination of Transfer tool that is available for testing on ccLabs http://labs.creativecommons.org/termination/.

			==Useability==

	~~ahlabayt for real estate emarketing~~
	~~ahlabayt for~~
	~~egyptian Real Estate~~
	~~Saudi Arabia Real Estate~~
	~~Arab Real Estate~~
	~~www.ahlabayt.com~~


	~~ahlabayt for real estate emarketing~~		==Functionality==
	~~ahlabayt for~~
	~~egyptian Real Estate~~
	~~Saudi Arabia Real Estate~~
	~~Arab Real Estate~~
	~~www.ahlabayt.com~~

	==Text Issues==		==Text Issues==

			==Legal Issues==
			So this would mean that something licensed with a creative commons share alike licence that permitted derivatives could make all derivative works illegal after the fact because the Author has rescinded the licence further down the track. If the Creative Commons group is implementing tools to make it impossible to trust that a derivative work can be based on a Share Alike Licence this does not build confidence. As far as I can see promoting this kind of transient commons will make it more like a follow spot where you have to trash derivative works as the licences become unsafe? Surely the work of the commons crew should be to demonstrate the problem this poses to derivative works and the credibility of shared licences rather than to make a tool for undermining the commons? A collaborative commons is your end goal yes?

			--Hey there - thanks much for your comments. Actually, as we explain more in this FAQ http://labs.creativecommons.org/termination/faq.php#So.2C_I_get_all_of_my_rights_back.3F - even if a license is successfully terminated, derivative works will be unaffected. Mia Garlick, CC GC, Jan. 2, 2007

	~~ahlabayt~~ for ~~real estate emarketing~~		Hi Mia
	~~ahlabayt~~ for		Thanks for the response. I am sure the project is intended for the benefit of the people you suggest but I feel it is a sad direction to take CC in. It is basically trying to unscramble an egg. If I base a project on a specific piece of information or technology because it has an open licence, and it is important to me that future people will be able to interact with the information, technology and derivatives freely, then I do not see how rescinding the openness once people have created interacting information, technology, and community can be anything but destructive. It is creative licensing, it is not in the spirit of the word 'commons'. I am very disappointed to see a group which describes itself as being interested in free culture and commons encourage this kind of transient openness. This time the window of openness is 35 years. The DMCA/EUCD is being exported around the world making access to information more restrictive and conditional. If the CC team promotes this 'feature' of copyright law you can be sure that the length of time will be reduced and the allowances for derivative works will be as easily rescinded as the overall transfer. I'm sorry but I cannot see how this contributes towards a 'creative commons'. Surely there is something promoting an enduring commons that the CC can spend its efforts towards?
	~~egyptian Real Estate~~
	~~Saudi Arabia Real Estate~~
	~~Arab Real Estate~~
	~~www~~.~~ahlabayt~~.~~com~~

Ahlabayt: ahlabayt for real estate marketing

2010-07-18T20:33:41Z

ahlabayt for real estate marketing

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	Arab Real Estate		Arab Real Estate
	www.ahlabayt.com		www.ahlabayt.com

	~~==Functionality==~~


			ahlabayt for real estate emarketing
			ahlabayt for
			egyptian Real Estate
			Saudi Arabia Real Estate
			Arab Real Estate
			www.ahlabayt.com

	==Text Issues==		==Text Issues==

Ahlabayt: www.ahlabayt.com

2010-07-18T20:32:48Z

www.ahlabayt.com

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	==Text Issues==		==Text Issues==

	~~==Legal Issues==~~
	So this would mean that something licensed with a creative commons share alike licence that permitted derivatives could make all derivative works illegal after the fact because the Author has rescinded the licence further down the track. If the Creative Commons group is implementing tools to make it impossible to trust that a derivative work can be based on a Share Alike Licence this does not build confidence. As far as I can see promoting this kind of transient commons will make it more like a follow spot where you have to trash derivative works as the licences become unsafe? Surely the work of the commons crew should be to demonstrate the problem this poses to derivative works and the credibility of shared licences rather than to make a tool for undermining the commons? A collaborative commons is your end goal yes?

	~~--Hey there - thanks much~~ for your comments. Actually, as we explain more in this FAQ http://labs.creativecommons.org/termination/faq.php#So.2C_I_get_all_of_my_rights_back.3F - even if a license is successfully terminated, derivative works will be unaffected. Mia Garlick, CC GC, Jan. 2, 2007		ahlabayt for real estate emarketing
			ahlabayt for
	~~Hi Mia~~		egyptian Real Estate
	Thanks for the response. I am sure the project is intended for the benefit of the people you suggest but I feel it is a sad direction to take CC in. It is basically trying to unscramble an egg. If I base a project on a specific piece of information or technology because it has an open licence, and it is important to me that future people will be able to interact with the information, technology and derivatives freely, then I do not see how rescinding the openness once people have created interacting information, technology, and community can be anything but destructive. It is creative licensing, it is not in the spirit of the word 'commons'. I am very disappointed to see a group which describes itself as being interested in free culture and commons encourage this kind of transient openness. This time the window of openness is 35 years. The DMCA/EUCD is being exported around the world making access to information more restrictive and conditional. If the CC team promotes this 'feature' of copyright law you can be sure that the length of time will be reduced and the allowances for derivative works will be as easily rescinded as the overall transfer. ~~I'm sorry but I cannot see how this contributes towards a 'creative commons'~~. ~~Surely there is something promoting an enduring commons that the CC can spend its efforts towards?~~		Saudi Arabia Real Estate
			Arab Real Estate
			www.ahlabayt.com

Ahlabayt: ahlabayt for real estate marketing

2010-07-18T20:32:07Z

ahlabayt for real estate marketing

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	This page is designed to collect comments and feedback on the BETA Returning Author's Rights: Termination of Transfer tool that is available for testing on ccLabs http://labs.creativecommons.org/termination/.		This page is designed to collect comments and feedback on the BETA Returning Author's Rights: Termination of Transfer tool that is available for testing on ccLabs http://labs.creativecommons.org/termination/.

	~~==Useability==~~


			ahlabayt for real estate emarketing
			ahlabayt for
			egyptian Real Estate
			Saudi Arabia Real Estate
			Arab Real Estate
			www.ahlabayt.com

	==Functionality==		==Functionality==

Lucychili: /* Legal Issues */

2007-01-03T12:08:32Z

Legal Issues

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	So this would mean that something licensed with a creative commons share alike licence that permitted derivatives could make all derivative works illegal after the fact because the Author has rescinded the licence further down the track. If the Creative Commons group is implementing tools to make it impossible to trust that a derivative work can be based on a Share Alike Licence this does not build confidence. As far as I can see promoting this kind of transient commons will make it more like a follow spot where you have to trash derivative works as the licences become unsafe? Surely the work of the commons crew should be to demonstrate the problem this poses to derivative works and the credibility of shared licences rather than to make a tool for undermining the commons? A collaborative commons is your end goal yes?		So this would mean that something licensed with a creative commons share alike licence that permitted derivatives could make all derivative works illegal after the fact because the Author has rescinded the licence further down the track. If the Creative Commons group is implementing tools to make it impossible to trust that a derivative work can be based on a Share Alike Licence this does not build confidence. As far as I can see promoting this kind of transient commons will make it more like a follow spot where you have to trash derivative works as the licences become unsafe? Surely the work of the commons crew should be to demonstrate the problem this poses to derivative works and the credibility of shared licences rather than to make a tool for undermining the commons? A collaborative commons is your end goal yes?

			--Hey there - thanks much for your comments. Actually, as we explain more in this FAQ http://labs.creativecommons.org/termination/faq.php#So.2C_I_get_all_of_my_rights_back.3F - even if a license is successfully terminated, derivative works will be unaffected. Mia Garlick, CC GC, Jan. 2, 2007

	~~--Hey there - thanks much~~ for ~~your comments~~. ~~Actually~~, as ~~we explain more~~ in this ~~FAQ http://labs~~.~~creativecommons~~.~~org~~/~~termination/faq~~.~~php#So.2C_I_get_all_of_my_rights_back.3F - even if a license is successfully terminated,~~ derivative works will be ~~unaffected~~. ~~Mia Garlick,~~ CC ~~GC, Jan. 2, 2007~~		Hi Mia
			Thanks for the response. I am sure the project is intended for the benefit of the people you suggest but I feel it is a sad direction to take CC in. It is basically trying to unscramble an egg. If I base a project on a specific piece of information or technology because it has an open licence, and it is important to me that future people will be able to interact with the information, technology and derivatives freely, then I do not see how rescinding the openness once people have created interacting information, technology, and community can be anything but destructive. It is creative licensing, it is not in the spirit of the word 'commons'. I am very disappointed to see a group which describes itself as being interested in free culture and commons encourage this kind of transient openness. This time the window of openness is 35 years. The DMCA/EUCD is being exported around the world making access to information more restrictive and conditional. If the CC team promotes this 'feature' of copyright law you can be sure that the length of time will be reduced and the allowances for derivative works will be as easily rescinded as the overall transfer. I'm sorry but I cannot see how this contributes towards a 'creative commons'. Surely there is something promoting an enduring commons that the CC can spend its efforts towards?

Miakgarlick: /* Legal Issues */

2007-01-03T00:54:45Z

Legal Issues

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	Hey there - thanks much for your comments. Actually, as we explain more in this FAQ http://labs.creativecommons.org/termination/faq.php#So.2C_I_get_all_of_my_rights_back.3F - even if a license is successfully terminated, derivative works will be unaffected. Mia Garlick, CC GC, Jan. 2, 2007		--Hey there - thanks much for your comments. Actually, as we explain more in this FAQ http://labs.creativecommons.org/termination/faq.php#So.2C_I_get_all_of_my_rights_back.3F - even if a license is successfully terminated, derivative works will be unaffected. Mia Garlick, CC GC, Jan. 2, 2007

Miakgarlick: /* Legal Issues */

2007-01-03T00:54:28Z

Legal Issues

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	==Legal Issues==		==Legal Issues==
	So this would mean that something licensed with a creative commons share alike licence that permitted derivatives could make all derivative works illegal after the fact because the Author has rescinded the licence further down the track. If the Creative Commons group is implementing tools to make it impossible to trust that a derivative work can be based on a Share Alike Licence this does not build confidence. As far as I can see promoting this kind of transient commons will make it more like a follow spot where you have to trash derivative works as the licences become unsafe? Surely the work of the commons crew should be to demonstrate the problem this poses to derivative works and the credibility of shared licences rather than to make a tool for undermining the commons? A collaborative commons is your end goal yes?		So this would mean that something licensed with a creative commons share alike licence that permitted derivatives could make all derivative works illegal after the fact because the Author has rescinded the licence further down the track. If the Creative Commons group is implementing tools to make it impossible to trust that a derivative work can be based on a Share Alike Licence this does not build confidence. As far as I can see promoting this kind of transient commons will make it more like a follow spot where you have to trash derivative works as the licences become unsafe? Surely the work of the commons crew should be to demonstrate the problem this poses to derivative works and the credibility of shared licences rather than to make a tool for undermining the commons? A collaborative commons is your end goal yes?


			Hey there - thanks much for your comments. Actually, as we explain more in this FAQ http://labs.creativecommons.org/termination/faq.php#So.2C_I_get_all_of_my_rights_back.3F - even if a license is successfully terminated, derivative works will be unaffected. Mia Garlick, CC GC, Jan. 2, 2007

Lucychili: /* Legal Issues */

2006-12-30T13:18:30Z

Legal Issues

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	==Legal Issues==		==Legal Issues==
			So this would mean that something licensed with a creative commons share alike licence that permitted derivatives could make all derivative works illegal after the fact because the Author has rescinded the licence further down the track. If the Creative Commons group is implementing tools to make it impossible to trust that a derivative work can be based on a Share Alike Licence this does not build confidence. As far as I can see promoting this kind of transient commons will make it more like a follow spot where you have to trash derivative works as the licences become unsafe? Surely the work of the commons crew should be to demonstrate the problem this poses to derivative works and the credibility of shared licences rather than to make a tool for undermining the commons? A collaborative commons is your end goal yes?

Nathan Yergler at 18:13, 21 December 2006

2006-12-21T18:13:38Z

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	This page is designed to collect comments and feedback on the BETA Returning Author's Rights: Termination of Transfer tool that is available for testing on ccLabs http://~~lab~~.creativecommons.org/termination/.		This page is designed to collect comments and feedback on the BETA Returning Author's Rights: Termination of Transfer tool that is available for testing on ccLabs http://labs.creativecommons.org/termination/.

	==Useability==		==Useability==

Miakgarlick: /* Text Issues= */

2006-12-21T16:31:10Z

Text Issues=

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	==Text Issues===		==Text Issues==



	==Legal Issues==		==Legal Issues==